Snowflake Challenge: Day 6

[kangeiko]

Day 6

In your own space, create a list of at least three fannish things you'd love to receive, something you've wanted but were afraid to ask for - a fannish wish-list of sorts. Leave a comment in this post saying you did it. Include a link to your wish-list if you feel comfortable doing so. Maybe someone will grant a wish. Check out other people's posts. Maybe you will grant a wish. If any wishes are granted, we'd love it if you link them to this post.

This is a hard one! 

1) I tried to be brave earlier and I signed up to chocolateboxcomm earlier (my letter is here) and in there I listed some of the ships I love that don't get enough love / fics. Anything for any of those ships would make me so incredibly happy. For the curious, they're Odo/Quark (ST: Deep Space Nine), Peggy/Jack/Daniel (Agent Carter), and Bester/Garibaldi (Babylon 5). 

2) I really, really love transformative works. I have a blanket statement giving permission to podfic, translate, illustrate, remix, and otherwise transform any of my works. Anyone liking any of my work enough to want to spend their time and creative energy transforming it would make me incredibly happy.

3) .... I don't really know any Steve/Tony people. I KNOW. But I've been a relatively passive consumer of MCU fic - the extent of my engagement was commenting on fic, and then finally writing some about a year ago - and, well, all the fannish people I know are from other fandoms and Stony isn't their thing. Which is absolutely cool, and we bond over other stuff. But, uh, I'm writing quite a bit of Stony fic, and trying to get back into it is difficult when it's basically done in seclusion with v little fandom interaction. So... if you're a Stony fan, I'd love to connect! (And if you're a Stony beta reader who's willing to help me out occasionally, you can have my first-born as recompense.)

4) Getting back into DW / fandom after a long absence is hard. Rec me some nice communities, please?

Comments

[mizface]

Hi! I actually do like Stony, as well as a lot of other pairings/more in the MCU. My only real OTP there is Clint/Coulson. Cheering you on!

And I've never beta'ed this pairing, but I have done a bit of beta work. My time is limited (I'm a single mom of two teens), but I'd be happy to help if I can.

[kangeiko]

Hello! *waves excitedly* That would be amazing. I've subscribed to you. :)

[corvidology]

Chocolate Box really is very low stress. I hope you enjoy it!

[kangeiko]

Thank you! Everyone seems v excited about it so I’m getting excited by proxy :D

[likeadeuce]

I don't actively read in MCU but i do enjoy all iterations of the Steve/Tony pairing so am open to reading stuff!

[kangeiko]

*flails excitedly at you* OMG really? Because I need to flail at someone and if you’re pro-Stony then I definitely need to flail at you on Twitter DM! There is also the endless WIP of endless WIPiness, but that’s so endless I’m scared to inflict it on anyone... (but if you’re willing to read a million squillion pages and help me with plotting I would love you forever) <3

[likeadeuce]

I don't have a ton of reading time but would be happy to talk it over with you. will DM you my email.

[kangeiko]

<3 you are the BEST <3

[catdetective]

Heyhey! I'm a Stony fan from the comics (and the animated series), though to be honest it's been a while since I've followed any comics... I enjoy the MCU but their relationship is so different in it, and they're pretty well eclipsed by other ships.

I haven't been very active in the Marvel fandom(s) lately, but I'm always excited to talk about the guys!

[kangeiko]

Hello! *waves excitedly* I like Stony in the comics as well although I haven’t read that many of them as I was more focused on the X-Men in the past and only really got into the avengers comics via the MCU. So although I read a shedload of the comic verse fics, I haven’t felt confident enough to write any myself yet. (That’s not to say that I feel especially confident in the MCU, but it’s easier to consume a large portion of the canon required!) Always fantastic to meet other Stony people - I’ve followed you!

[catdetective]

Followed you as well! And yeah, like... having been out of comics so long, it's so much easier to get caught up with the MCU!

I do wish the MCU had waited on trying to do Civil War, and given them more of a foundation-- It felt like they were in a rush to have a big hero vs hero conflict and didn't take the time to build the relationship up enough for it to be impactful in the same way. Like... I mean to be fair, they couldn't give them the same decades of a built-up relationship as the comics had, but they should have made them closer from the start for their being at odds to really HURT?

[kangeiko]

I agree, I do think the whole thing was a bit rushed. They stripped it pretty bare as well, because they didn’t have the mutants in the universe it ended up being essentially Steve vs Tony on personal issues rather than principled takes, and they didn’t have a relationship to damage, per se - so it ended up being all “you! You professional acquaintance-slash-occasional colleague! You have betrayed me!” which... eeeeh. Don’t get me wrong, obvs everyone and their mother is writing in either existing relationships or deep UST, but it was definitely a direction the fandom wasn’t expecting (as evidenced by all the team-as-family fics immediately after Avengers, vs what we actually got in Ultron).

I ended up having to hand-wave a lot of it in any fics I write bc, well, the films tell us there’s a lot of personal hurt & betrayal all around, but we don’t actually have a whole lot of canon to base that on.

[catdetective]

Like... if they'd saved it a cycle, had more of the team-as-family... it could have been a lot more.

And they dropped the actual issue pretty fast in favor of personal stuff, which... if they had sat down and TALKED about it, they could have gotten through. It seemed so OOC on Steve's side to like... completely disregard Tony's personal pain, while being completely driven by his own personal issues? Like... he's not flawless, but the hypocrisy and the unwillingness to stop and de-escalate just didn't feel right. It just could have been a lot better.

[kangeiko]

Yeah, I have serious issues with Steve's characterisation in CW. Especially around the whole "we're gonna rescue Bucky and then we're gonna... hide. Possibly forever." I get that they tried to show him as breaking with authority etc in Winter Soldier, but the Steve in TFA rescues his friend and then turns himself in for a court-martial. He's done a heroic thing, but he also didn't follow orders, and he holds himself accountable for that. Even if we buy him not doing anything else, the fact that they had him hide is just bizarre to me.

I'm also deeply ambivalent about the whole thing where Tony thinks they're friends. What's that based on? Did they literally have Steve be friendly with a guy - using his resources to track Bucky - while knowing all he knew? Because that really doesn't sound like Steve.

It's really hard to come up with a consistent characterisation for him based on all the ways in which they jerk him around. The only thing I can think of is that basically he's still hip-deep in PTSD and should have been wading through therapists rather than bad guys. (And that maybe the friends thing was wishful thinking on Tony's part, while Steve was friendly but not consciously putting two and two together.) IDK, writing this dynamic post-CW has been really hard. I want to reconcile them, but doing so is SO slow (I had to turn Steve into a kid to do it, and he's still kid-aged, and Tony is basically at the end of his tether with stress, and everything is on fire, so everything is going fine...).

And, speaking of having his characterisation put through a meat grinder, poor Barton. *weeps* I have never been so outraged in my entire life, I swear to god.

[catdetective]

YEAH. Like... they really do take his character and just do whatever they want with him, rather than trying to build a consistent person? He SHOULD have made sure Bucky was out of town safe and then handed himself over and said 'okay, I broke the rules here, I think I had a good reason, but I don't get to be the sole arbiter of right and wrong, that's a dangerous road to go down'.

And the thing that kills me is, Tony KNOWS that's a dangerous road to go down, because he started out feeling like he was accountable to no one and could do whatever he wanted, and then it LITERALLY blew up in his face. And his whole arc has been about learning to be responsible. And yes, Steve is impulsive and his solutions to things usually involve flinging himself at danger, but like... he should be willing to sit down and listen to someone who at least views him as a friend (even if the writers have given us precious little to go by on that), and to say 'oh, okay, well I can see why you feel that way given your own history, here are my concerns'??

(ugh yeah, why can't we have comics!Clint in the MCU?)

[ruuger]

re #4: fic_promptly is a low-pressure fic prompt challenge, fancake and fanart_recs are great for themed recs, and fandomcalendar keeps you up-to-date on what's going on in fandom :)

[kangeiko]

They look great, thank you! I’ve joined/subscribed to them all. :)

[lyr]

3) I am a Stony fan! When I've written in the MCU, it's all been Phil/Clint, but that's because I have a friend who requests that from me. When I read in the MCU, it's mostly always Stony.

[kangeiko]

Hello! It's lovely to (virtually) meet another Stony fan. Is it ok if I follow you?

[lyr]

Sure, but I think you already do as of a few days ago.

[kangeiko]

*facepalm* I am blaming my anti-flu meds! :)