Ow

[kangeiko]

I am never drinking again. *clutches head*

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In other news, turns out the guy shot by police was actually innocent... and an electrician. Which is going to make Monday at work interesting, as I nearly quit after having a huge row with someone who was all for summary executions (back when we didn't know who the guy was). Readers of this journal will know that I am 1) against capital punishment; 2) against police carrying / using guns; 3) not enamoured by the thought of our police using Israeli counter-terrorist tactics because it means you shoot fucking electricians.

Unsurprisingly, the guy was panicked when a bunch of plainclothes policemen chased after him.

Scenario: A bunch of white guys chase you as a group.

I'd run.

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I'd say more but I have to go ward off some of this hangover.

Comments

[invisible-al.livejournal.com]

Have you read Isrealization (http://www.livejournal.com/users/imomus/124022.html) by Momus, food for thought.

[kangeiko]

Interesting indeed, and it concurs with my initial thoughts here.

I'm not happy where this is going. I'm really not.

[monanotlisa.livejournal.com]

Unsurprisingly, the guy was panicked when a bunch of plainclothes policemen chased after him.

Scenario: A bunch of white guys chase you as a group.

I'd run.

Yeah. ::sigh:: Not surprised this would happen, unfortunately.

[kangeiko]

There's talk that it was special branch.

i don't know how i feel about that, other than - put those bloody guns away!

[queenspanky.livejournal.com]

Two guys held him down and a third shot him five times. We may not have the death penalty here, but we do execute you for not being caucasian and in a hurry.

This, weirdly, has made me more angry than the bombings. I have no clue why, but at least I have my rage back.

[kangeiko]

definitely. i can rant at length and at a moment's notice on what is wrong with this bloody ridculous shoot to kill policy. for one thing, if we have one innocent casulaty a week, say, for one year, we would equal the death count of the original bombs.

where are we going and what are we doing in this handbasket?

[luzdeestrellas.livejournal.com]

Oh. Were they plainclothed? Oh. Because, seriously, I missed that, and I've been totally bemused as to why, when told to stop by police with guns, you would not. Things are much clearer now.

I think it's a horrible position to be in. I mean, if they *don't* shoot and then the guy explodes the bomb... You don't have to imagine too hard what the response would be. Stun guns seem like a better plan, however.

[kangeiko]

looks like he wasn't wearing a heavy jacket, or acting suspiciously. seriously, wtf?

[luzdeestrellas.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I mean at the moment it looks just crazy. The story now is nothing like the one they put out at the time, and if the current one is the true version (as I imagine it is) it's inexcusable.

I don't understand at all why they shot- and eight times? It's insane.

[kangeiko]

shot eleven times, they're saying now. only hit seven times in the head. my flatmate reminded me of the questioning of a soldier in northern ireland:

"Why did you shoot him six times?"

"I ran out of bullets."

Seriously. If it was a pistol, they emptied an entire clip into him. If it was something bigger - why the hell would you need something that pretty much explodes whatever it comes into contact with?

[luzdeestrellas.livejournal.com]

It's getting more ridiculous by the day. Last I saw they were blaming the guys doing the surveillance of the flat, and apparently the armed response officers were basically told last minute to challenge the guy. Which goes some way to explaining, I guess, why they appeared to act without any evidence, but still doesn't explain shooting someone who wasn't running or fighting back eleven times. They all screwed up pretty spectacularly.